Ari said:
Why does the animation fluctuate so much in Naruto? In Ep 26, we have this god tier fight animation that blows my mind every time I watch it (especially the Sakura part); but merely 2 episodes earlier, Ep 24, we have the part where Might Guy battles a clone of himself in a fight that's hilarious for all of the wrong reasons.

Naruto and Naruto Shippuden(and Boruto) were long-running series, meaning no breaks in production. Like 99% of every single other long running anime ever, resources are limited and you try to schedule accordingly.Usually arc climaxes(like this episode) are planned months in advance in order to have the most talent available.

gestureflow said:
Naruto and Naruto Shippuden(and Boruto) were long-running series, meaning no breaks in production. Like 99% of every single other long running anime ever, resources are limited and you try to schedule accordingly.Usually arc climaxes(like this episode) are planned months in advance in order to have the most talent available.

yeah I remember Hunter X Hunter 2011 being described kind of a production miracle, having basically the same quality for uhm more than 100 episode, right?

gurdim said:
yeah I remember Hunter X Hunter 2011 being described kind of a production miracle, having basically the same quality for uhm more than 100 episode, right?

Not particularly. There wasn't much animation to write home about pre-chimera arc.I'd say the 1999 anime was better.

As far as consistency goes, my money's on Yu Yu Hakusho, especially the Dark Tournament arc.

gestureflow said:
Not particularly. There wasn't much animation to write home about pre-chimera arc.I'd say the 1999 anime was better.

As far as consistency goes, my money's on Yu Yu Hakusho, especially the Dark Tournament arc.

Eehm I dunno. It's not just a matter of having great animation costantly, but in the 2011 for the whole show the lineart, the coloring, the animation never delve, they have always a higher standard than most of the long running shonen series so far. That said, I myself (and it's written in other comments of mine as a proof) prefer slightly more the 1999 anime for a number of reasons, starting from the overall directing, to the coloring and chara design, the fact that as typical there are drops in quality during the series, but they aren't big as I remembered, and the good animation is all along the run and not just in the most famous final arcs.
There are a good amount of memorable animation pieces, and I prefer generally the fights in the older show.... even if I'd say rather than the animation per se, I like their storyboard and directing over the 2011s same pieces, except a few examples (Hanzo vs Gon is way, way, way superior in the 1999. period. Many others like Hisoka vs. Gon are more matter of personal taste)... generally I find that the 1999 has a better atmosphere (that scene of Kurapica with red eyes vs the mobster... damn it in the old show he's terrifying xD) and if there is a general thing that makes me like it a bit more than the newer one, is that there are uhm how to say, more imaginative and peculiar shots, like that amazing 3d-like rotating first person scene in the hotel hall, or some fish-eyes, and such. (also, if you allow me to add, HxH 99 is the example of how the "it's bad cause it's got filler" can be a double edged bladed.... those fillers are actually good xD).

the only thing special about HxH 2011 is tomoko mori's episodes ,some Abiru episodes are around the good level and few sakuga mostly from sawada ,other than that it's plain dull in its directiion,art,ost with one of the worst character designs adaptaion ever,look at 99 Goto's designs Amazing

that said,I actually like it but it should be put where it stands as an adaptaion of one of the best manga ever

99 is definitely superior that theren't a room for comparison (the original 62 episodes)
https://twitter.com/Ahmedmedhat000/status/1214948962303651840

I do feel like HxH 2011 was made in response to all the criticism there was on long-running shounen over the years having inconsistent quality. They also tackled the pacing problem, no filler and quick-as-hell progression.

But yeah this isn't magical, they traded the inconsistency with less god tier sequences, less interesting art direction (more a problem of era we might say), and the fast pacing isn't ideal either, too fast for my taste at least.

It was also one of the first prod of Neo-Madhouse, having been bought by NTV, so surely it plays a role. Modernized Parasyte and all that stuff followed.

As for Naruto, I would say this is the real production miracle for the 50-or-so first episodes, I rewatched it recently and it had the balanced pacing of the old (not too slow either like some DB), the incredible animation bursts but the standard sequences weren't ugly most of the time. I say 50-or-so because I stopped my rewatch there. There is one episode when Sakura fights Ino where it feels they put all took a break, but most of the time the beginning of the series is visually very well balanced.

hgfdsahjkl said:
the only thing special about HxH 2011 is tomoko mori's episodes ,some Abiru episodes are around the good level and few sakuga mostly from sawada ,other than that it's plain dull in its directiion,art,ost with one of the worst character designs adaptaion ever,look at 99 Goto's designs Amazing

that said,I actually like it but it should be put where it stands as an adaptaion of one of the best manga ever

99 is definitely superior that theren't a room for comparison (the original 62 episodes)
https://twitter.com/Ahmedmedhat000/status/1214948962303651840

Mmh, I can't agree, and as I said, I actually like the 99 more, no need to remind me things like how the character design is better, I already said it myself a thousand times XD. That said, even respecting different points of view, sorry but saying that the 2011 has one of the worst character design adaptions ever is a overstatement.

Also, but I already said it, it's not just a matter of having what we call sakuga, and we all know we can't have a anime series (at least a 100 episodes one) made just of sakuga, the overall animation quality stays always high, the drawing is clear and there aren't deep dives in the visuals like, sad to say, happens almost always in such long productions. I wouldn't even say that the directing is dull, but yeah, I really do prefer, in a lot of parts, the 99s one.

To me the fairest statement is the one of Lighthalzen, up here, saying (allow me to quote you)

"But yeah this isn't magical, they traded the inconsistency with less god tier sequences, less interesting art direction (more a problem of era we might say), and the fast pacing isn't ideal either, too fast for my taste at least."

That said, as I stated more times than stars in the sky or the lakes in Finland, I like more the 99, I just find unfair to dump the madhouse version, as much as on the contrary many say "the newer one is awesome and the older is terrible". Also, look, I love the manga hunterxhunter, but it's probably the most inconsistent expression of that franchise art style-wise xD

Oh, I agree partially on Naruto, rewatching it I found a better balance than I remembered, but still, in the first and second series, there are a certain amount of low points, in terms of things like characters being of model, details in background being messed up, questionable visual effects like the water in some rivers and channels (that brings back to the classic topic of the 2000 first years and the attempts to put digital effects on 2d animation). But still, the aforementioned hated/loved 2011 hunterxhunter never fluctuaded that much.

I don't really feel that you disagreed with me :D and it actually wasn't directed at you as I agree with what you said
I was just stating my opinion about HxH 2011,to be fair HxH 2011 was pretty nice starting from GI,nothing special unless it's tomoki mori but overall consistently nice

hgfdsahjkl said:
I don't really feel that you disagreed with me :D and it actually wasn't directed at you as I agree with what you said
I was just stating my opinion about HxH 2011,to be fair HxH 2011 was pretty nice starting from GI,nothing special unless it's tomoki mori but overall consistently nice

oh. uh. ah. d'oh!

yeah, it twisted and turned out like that :P
Even if, allow me to say, your post sounded a bit like "It shaalll burn in heeeelllll... but I actually like it." oh. ok? xD

reminds me of a old gag from a trio of comedians from my country, in which a reporter asks two persons about a soccer player, and they basically say the same things (agreeing) while sounding like they were disagreeing xD