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Shouldn't Andreas Deja be tagged as well for animating Scar?
Baxter animated both characters here. Source (at 7:11): https://vimeo.com/69867353
I almost forgot that i have some key animation for this movie
hobbessakuga said:
Baxter animated both characters here. Source (at 7:11): https://vimeo.com/69867353
Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification.
I've read this film uses '119,058 individually colored frames of film' and Beauty and the Beast uses 120,000. Isn't that quite a small amount? Are they talking about the number of drawings used to make characters move?
I also read that Miyazaki's 'Ponyo' used 170,000 drawings - considerably more.

What do the '119,058' frames of film refer to? https://www.magicalkingdoms.com/animation/lionking.html
koopabeach said:
I've read this film uses '119,058 individually colored frames of film' and Beauty and the Beast uses 120,000. Isn't that quite a small amount? Are they talking about the number of drawings used to make characters move?
I also read that Miyazaki's 'Ponyo' used 170,000 drawings - considerably more.

What do the '119,058' frames of film refer to? https://www.magicalkingdoms.com/animation/lionking.html
119,058 frames were shot on film, and +1 million drawings were made.
Ah, ok. Thanks, Ovatz. So, going by this - the average number of drawings per second for 'The Lion King' is about 23. The animation looks smooth.
For 'Ponyo', the film used about 170,000 drawings - about 28 per second. The animation looks smooth but dips in and out of full animation. I'm interested in the appearance of the finished products. Does it seem strange the number of drawings per second for 'Ponyo' is higher? Or maybe I misunderstand the animation process.

Here's an interesting article that details that Disney's 'Tarzan' used 170,000 separate drawings in the finished film and 'Lilo and Stitch' used 130,000.
Princess Mononoke used '144,000' yet the finished works look completely different.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1024359150128557760
koopabeach said:
Ah, ok. Thanks, Ovatz. So, going by this - the average number of drawings per second for 'The Lion King' is about 23. The animation looks smooth.
For 'Ponyo', the film used about 170,000 drawings - about 28 per second. The animation looks smooth but dips in and out of full animation. I'm interested in the appearance of the finished products. Does it seem strange the number of drawings per second for 'Ponyo' is higher? Or maybe I misunderstand the animation process.

Here's an interesting article that details that Disney's 'Tarzan' used 170,000 separate drawings in the finished film and 'Lilo and Stitch' used 130,000.
Princess Mononoke used '144,000' yet the finished works look completely different.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1024359150128557760
Since I've seen people struggle to understand data points like that (which is natural): it's tradition in anime to count drawings by layers, hence why in cases where the animation is extraordinarily dense you can see some impossible-looking numbers.
kViN said:
Since I've seen people struggle to understand data points like that (which is natural): it's tradition in anime to count drawings by layers, hence why in cases where the animation is extraordinarily dense you can see some impossible-looking numbers.
https://slow.pics/c/hkn963Sq so like this for example? 9 "drawings" for 1 frame
Thanks. So, the data points for the Disney movies do not count individual cels - they count all the layers together as one frame?

A different Disney movie, 'Oliver and Company' (1988) used '119,275 hand painted cels'. https://www.magicalkingdoms.com/animation/oliverandco.html
"The Little Mermaid" required more than 150,000 cels, 1,100 backgrounds'

It seems the numbers for most Disney films are between 110000 and 170000 frames.
Which traditionally animated film has the most intricate animation? By intricate, I mean the finished product is smooth, detailed and doesn't seem 'limited' whatsoever. I've seen 'The Thief and the Cobbler' but are there any other examples that are similarly detailed?